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WHY John 3:16 IS PROBABLY THE MOST MISUSED VERSE IN THE ENTIRE BIBLE.

WHY John 3:16 IS PROBABLY THE MOST MISUSED VERSE IN THE ENTIRE BIBLE.

April 13, 2009 at 3:59pm
Below is a profile comment I put up on Friday April 10, 2009 about my Bible Fellowship lesson and the comments that followed... Tell me what you think and please offer some feed back.
God bless,
Tu

Tuese Ahkiong taught an exciting study last nite on how Christ was prophesied in the Law, Prophets & Psalms. It lead into how JOHN 3:16 IS PERHAPS THE MOST MISUSED VERSE IN THE ENTIRE BIBLE.
Fri 10:47am · Comment · Like

Mark Saenz at 11:36am April 10 i would actually like to see that study...

Kenton MacDonald-Lin at 11:49am April 10 i know what you mean. great stuff.

Tuese Ahkiong at 12:04pm April 10
Hi M,
Let's have our study. This will be sweet, like good old days.
Who is "The World" in John 3:16?
Is it every single individual without exception?
If so, does God love those who are in hell receiving His wrath for all eternity?
If so, doesn't that conflict with Romans 8:35 "Who shall seperate us from the love of Christ...?
If one is in hell are they not separated from Christ's love forever?
Is not that person the object of God's wrath prepared for destruction? Rom 9.22, Eph 2.1-3
So, who is the world in Johh 3:16???
Do people's traditions and biases interpret who the world is? Yes, all the time.
Look at vs 17-18 and this will give you insight into who the world is.

Mark Saenz at 12:37pm April 10
that's really good stuff...i'll definetly research it more to have a better understand...thanks 2...

John Sherrard at 2:06pm April 10 via Facebook Mobile
As long as our understanding of theology doesn't steer us away from loving God and our neighbors (everyone around us) irregardless of whether they may or may not be damned to eternity in hell. Even Jesus loved Judas.

Tuese Ahkiong at 12:11am April 11
17FOR GOD DID NOT SEND HIS SON INTO THE WORLD TO CONDEMN THE WORLD
[What world is not condemned? The Christian world, right? Is not the non-Christian world condemned? So, does world in this passage refer to every single individual without exception or does it refer to the Christian world?],

BUT IN ORDER THAT THE WORLD MIGHT BE SAVED THROUGH HIM
[What world is saved through Jesus? The Christian world, right? Those who believe, right? Just like vs.16 says, right? Is the non-Christian world saved? No.]

18WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM IS NOT CONDEMNED,
[Who believes in Jesus? Christians, right? Are Christians condemned? No. Are those who reject Jesus condemned? Yes.]

BUT WHOEVER DOES NOT BELIEVE IS CONDEMNED ALREADY, BECAUSE HE HAS NOT BELIEVED IN THE NAME OF THE ONLY SON OF GOD.
[Who doesn’t believe in Jesus? Non-Christians, right? Who is condemned? Non-Christians, right? So, can the world in John 3:16-18 be referring to every single individual without exception? No.

Tuese Ahkiong at 1:14am April 11
J,
Yes, we must love God with all our heart, MIND, soul and strength and our neighbor as our self. We shouldn't break the 9th commandment either by misrepresenting God to our neighbors b/c that would be unloving.
My point is that C peeps have used John 3.16 according to their unbiblical tradition. They describe the Gospel as a mooshy sentimental love that God has for non-believer. Where in the Scriptures do you have any of the Apostles or saints telling peeps, "God loves you and has a great plan for your life?"
The Book of Acts has the most history of the early church's presentation of the Gospel and NO WHERE in the book do you have the above approach. What one does see is "Repent and Believe" over and over. None of this idolatrous mooshy stuff.

what do you mean by "even Jesus loved Judas?"

Well, I do not know who the elect and reprobate are. I share the Gospel with everyone which is the most loving thing we can do for anyone.

Tuese Ahkiong at 11:04am April 11
Some questions:
1.If Jesus was sent with the intention to spill His precious blood and die for the sins of the whole world (everyone without exception), is He not a failure since not all are saved?
2.If “God desires for all to be saved” and all are not saved, is not His will thwarted by the creature?
3.Is rejecting Jesus a sin?
4.Did Jesus die for the sin of rejecting Him?
5.If yes, should not all go to heaven? And if no, are there sins that Jesus did not die for?
6.Did Jesus die for a) all sins of all people? b)All the sins of some of the people? Or c)Some sins of all/some of the people?
7.If all do not go to heaven, could it be that Jesus DID NOT DIE FOR EVERYONE’s sin (contrary to contemporary pop-Christianity) but rather as The Scripture says for His bride, His people, His Church, His sheep, His chosen, His elect, His Beloved, those to whom The Father has given Him?
8.Does Jesus’ death only make salvation possible or did He actually die for certain people?

Tuese Ahkiong at 11:09am April 11
9. Is it upsetting to the creature that the Scriptures teach that God has mercy on whom He want to have mercy and that He hardens whom He wants to harden; that He alone chooses from the foundation of the world/ before the beginning of time among the spiritually dead, hell-deserving, God-hating, sin-infested, blind, corrupt, unholy, rebellious, dead in trespasses, objects of wrath prepared for destruction, enemies of God as to who will be saved?
10. Does the All-Knowing, All-Powerful Sovereign look down the corridors of time to LEARN and hope the creature will pick Him? Ain’t that stupid, God having to learn? People actually believe this. They are called Arminians and Open-Theists.
11. If you are a Christian, why do you believe? Does not the Bible teach that God Authors your faith, grants belief?
12. Or is it because of your great wisdom and “Free will?”
13. What does a sinful “free will” choose?
14. Do you save yourself or does God save you?

Tuese Ahkiong at 11:34am April 11
God loves everyone in a benevolent way or common grace way in that He blesses them with provisions: food, air, drink, health. Plus, He doesn't send Non-Christians to hell sooner than they deserve.
The only reason God loves you my fellow Christian is b/c of Jesus. Otherwise, you would have some serious problems. So, do you rejoice in Jesus as your everything?

Tuese Ahkiong at 12:44pm April 11
Man is idolatrous in creating God into man's own image. He wants God to be Santa Claus or a Love bubble that has no other attribute. The real question is "Will one submit to how the Scriptures reveal and define God?"

April 15
Here's the argument BY Ra McLaughlin.
Arguing from the context 3.16-18
1. God sent his Son to save the world/kosmos.
2. God did NOT send his Son to judge/condemn the world/kosmos.
3. Believers are saved.
4. Believers are NOT judged/condemned.
5. Unbelievers are NOT saved.
6. Unbelievers are judged/ condemned.

Since unbelievers are judged and NOT saved, contrarily to the kosmos which is saved and NOT judged, unbelievers are NOT part of the kosmos in this passage.

Since believers are saved and NOT judged, just as the kosmos is saved and NOT judged, kosmos represents believers in this passage.



Here are passages in John's writings that define “world” in a limited sense. It does not include every single individual without exception.

1.John 17:9 I pray for them. I am not praying for the world, but for those you have given me, for they are yours.
JESUS IS NOT PRAYING FOR THE WORLD. WHO IS THE WORLD? DOES IT INCLUDE BELIEVERS THAT HE IS NOT PRAYING FOR?

2. John 12:19 So the Pharisees said to one another, "See, this is getting us nowhere. Look how the whole world has gone after him!"
DID THE PHARISEES GO AFTER JESUS? ARE THEY NOT PART OF THE WHOLE WORLD IN THIS PASSAGE?

3. John 13:1 [ Jesus Washes His Disciples' Feet ] It was just before the Passover Feast. Jesus knew that the time had come for him to leave this world and go to the Father. Having loved his own who were in the world, he now showed them the full extent of his love.
DOES NOT JESUS STATE THAT HE LOVED HIS OWN WHO WERE IN THE WORLD? DOES THIS NOT MEAN THERE ARE THOSE WHO ARE NOT HIS? DOES THE CREATURE MAKE ITSELF GOD’S OR DOES GOD THE CREATOR, MAKER, OWNER OF ALL THINGS MAKE THE CREATURE HIS?

4.John 14:17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.
DID NOT THE DISCIPLES AND APOSTLES ACCEPT JESUS? IS NOT THE WORLD HERE BEING USED IN A LIMITED SENSE?

5. John 14:22 Then Judas (not Judas Iscariot) said, "But, Lord, why do you intend to show yourself to us and not to the world?"
DOES JUDAS UNDERSTAND JESUS' INTENSION OF NOT SHOWING HIMSELF TO THE WORLD? IS JUDAS AND THE APOSTLES PART OF THIS WORLD? NO.

6. John 15:18 [ The World Hates the Disciples ] "If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first.
DOES NOT THE WORLD HERE MEAN A LIMITED GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO HATE THE DISCIPLES AND JESUS?

7.John 15:19 If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.
DOES NOT JESUS SAY THAT HIS DISCIPLES ARE CHOSEN OUT OF THE WORLD?

8. John 16:20 I tell you the truth, you will weep and mourn while the world rejoices. You will grieve, but your grief will turn to joy.
WERE THE DISCIPLES REJOICING WITH THE WORLD? OF COURSE NOT, SO WORLD DOES NOT MEAN EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL WITHOUT EXCEPTION.

9. John 16:33 "I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world."
IS NOT WORLD BEING USED IN A LIMITED SENSE, NOT INCLUDING EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL WITHOU EXCEPTION?

10. John 17:14 I have given them your word and the world has hated them, for they are not of the world any more than I am of the world.
IS NOT WORLD BEING USED IN A LIMITED SENSE, NOT INCLUDING EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL WITHOU EXCEPTION?

11.John 17:15 My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one.
NO RAPTURE HERE FROM THE EARTH. JESUS WANTS HIS PEOPLE PROTECTED AND NOT ESCAPING THE BATTLE.

12.1 John 2:15 [ Do Not Love the World ] Do not love the world nor the things in the world If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
IS GOD CONTRADICTING HIMSELF BY TELLING US TO NOT LOVE THE WORLD? NO, WORLD IS BEING USED AS THE WORLD OF SIN AND EVIL. IT IS NOT INCLUDING THE WORLD OF BELIEVERS.

13.1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the boastful pride of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world.
SEE ABOVE.

This is an excerpt from Arthur Pinks' Sovereignty of God. Below is a listing of difference usages of the word "world."

A. “Kosmos” is used of the Universe as a whole: Acts 17:24 “God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that He is Lord of heaven and earth.”
B. “Kosmos” is used of the earth: John 13:1; Eph 1:4, etc.: “When Jesus knew that His hour was come that He should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved His own which were in the world He loved them unto the end. “Depart out of this world” signifies, leave this earth.
“According as He hath chosen us in Him before the foundation of the world”. This expression signifies. before the earth was founded — compare Job 38:4, etc.
C. “Kosmos” is used of the world-system: John 12:31, etc.: “Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the Prince of this world be cast out” — compare Matt. 4:8 and 1 John 5:19, R. V.
D. “Kosmos” is used of the whole human race: Rom. 3:19, etc.-“Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.”
E. “Kosmos” is used of humanity minus believers: John 15:18; Rom 3:6: — “If the world hate you, ye know that it hated Me before it hated you.” Believers do not “hate” Christ, so that “the world” here must signify the world of unbelievers in contrast from believers who love Christ,
“God forbid: for then how shall God judge the world.” Here is another passage where “the world” cannot mean ‘you, me, and everybody’, for believers will not be “judged” by God, see John 5:24. So that here, too, it must be the world of unbelievers which is in view.
F. “Kosmos” is used of Gentiles in contrast from Jews: Rom. 11:12, etc.— “Now if the fall of them (Israel) be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them (Israel) the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their (Israel’s) fulness.” Note how the first clause in bold face is defined by the latter clause placed in bold face. Here, again, “the world” cannot signify all humanity for it excludes Israel!
G. “Kosmos” is used of believers only: John 1:29; 3:16,17; 6:33; 12:47; 1 Cor. 4:9; 2 Cor. 5:19. We leave our readers to turn to these passages, asking them to note, carefully, exactly what is said and predicated of the “world” in each place.



John 3 (YLT)
1And there was a man of the Pharisees, Nicodemus his name, a ruler of the Jews,
2this one came unto him by night, and said to him, `Rabbi, we have known that from God thou hast come -- a teacher, for no one these signs is able to do that thou dost, if God may not be with him.'
3Jesus answered and said to him, `VERILY, VERILY, I SAY TO THEE, IF ANY ONE MAY NOT BE BORN FROM ABOVE, HE IS NOT ABLE TO SEE THE REIGN OF GOD;'
4Nicodemus saith unto him, `How is a man able to be born, being old? is he able into the womb of his mother a second time to enter, and to be born?'
5Jesus answered, `VERILY, VERILY, I SAY TO THEE, IF ANY ONE MAY NOT BE BORN OF WATER, AND THE SPIRIT, HE IS NOT ABLE TO ENTER INTO THE REIGN OF GOD;
6that which hath been born of the flesh is flesh, and that which hath been born of the Spirit is spirit.
7`Thou mayest not wonder that I said to thee, IT BEHOVETH YOU TO BE BORN FROM ABOVE;
8the Spirit where he willeth doth blow, and his voice thou dost hear, but thou hast not known whence he cometh, and whither he goeth; THUS IS EVERY ONE WHO HATH BEEN BORN OF THE SPIRIT.'
9Nicodemus answered and said to him, `How are these things able to happen?'
10Jesus answered and said to him, `THOU ART THE TEACHER OF ISRAEL -- AND THESE THINGS THOU DOST NOT KNOW!
11`Verily, verily, I say to thee -- What we have known we speak, and what we have seen we testify, and our testimony ye do not receive;
12if the earthly things I said to you, and ye do not believe, how, if I shall say to you the heavenly things, will ye believe?
13and no one hath gone up to the heaven, except he who out of the heaven came down -- the Son of Man who is in the heaven.
14`And as Moses did lift up the serpent in the wilderness, so it behoveth the Son of Man to be lifted up,
15that every one who is believing in him may not perish, but may have life age-during,
16for God did so love THE WORLD, that His Son -- the only begotten -- He gave, that every one who is believing in him may not perish, but may have life age-during.
17For God did not send His Son to THE WORLD that he may judge THE WORLD, but that THE WORLD may be saved through him;
18he who is believing in him is not judged, but he who is not believing hath been judged already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19`And this is the judgment, that the light hath come to THE WORLD, and men did love the darkness rather than the light, for their works were evil;
20for every one who is doing wicked things hateth the light, and doth not come unto the light, that his works may not be detected;
21but he who is doing the truth doth come to the light, that his works may be manifested, that in God they are having been wrought.'
22After these things came Jesus and his disciples to the land of Judea, and there he did tarry with them, and was baptizing;
23and John was also baptizing in Aenon, nigh to Salem, because there were many waters there, and they were coming and were being baptized --
24for John was not yet cast into the prison --
25there arose then a question from the disciples of John with [some] Jews about purifying,
26and they came unto John, and said to him, `Rabbi, he who was with thee beyond the Jordan, to whom thou didst testify, lo, this one is baptizing, and all are coming unto him.'
27John answered and said, `A man is not able to receive anything, if it may not have been given him from the heaven;
28ye yourselves do testify to me that I said, I am not the Christ, but, that I am having been sent before him;
29he who is having the bride is bridegroom, and the friend of the bridegroom, who is standing and hearing him, with joy doth rejoice because of the voice of the bridegroom; this, then, my joy hath been fulfilled.
30`Him it behoveth to increase, and me to become less;
31he who from above is coming is above all; he who is from the earth, from the earth he is, and from the earth he speaketh; he who from the heaven is coming is above all.
32`And what he hath seen and heard this he doth testify, and his testimony none receiveth;
33he who is receiving his testimony did seal that God is true;
34for he whom God sent, the sayings of God he speaketh; for not by measure doth God give the Spirit;
35the Father doth love the Son, and all things hath given into his hand;
36he who is believing in the Son, hath life age-during; and he who is not believing the Son, shall not see life, BUT THE WRATH OF GOD DOTH REMAIN UPON HIM.'
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In verse 10, Jesus rebukes Nicodemus because as a teacher of Israel, he should have known the OT teaching of rebirth.

Ezekiel 36:25-27 25"THEN I WILL SPRINKLE CLEAN WATER ON YOU, AND YOU WILL BE CLEAN; I WILL CLEANSE YOU FROM ALL YOUR FILTHINESS AND FROM ALL YOUR IDOLS.
26"MOREOVER, I WILL GIVE YOU A NEW HEART AND PUT A NEW SPIRIT WITHIN YOU; AND I WILL REMOVE THE HEART OF STONE FROM YOUR FLESH AND GIVE YOU A HEART OF FLESH.
27"I WILL PUT MY SPIRIT WITHIN YOU AND CAUSE YOU TO WALK IN MY STATUTES, AND YOU WILL BE CAREFUL TO OBSERVE MY ORDINANCES.

Notice how it is a Sovereign act of God to put His Spirit in a person. This is seen in both John and Ezekiel.
Also, part of the OT teaching is that the Gospel will go to the whole world.

Gen 22:18 "In your seed ALL THE NATIONS OF THE EARTH SHALL BE BLESSED, because you have obeyed My voice."
Gen 18:18 since Abraham will surely become a great and mighty nation, and in him all the nations of the earth will be blessed?
Gal 3:8 The Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, "ALL THE NATIONS WILL BE BLESSED IN YOU."
Acts 3:25"It is you who are (A)the sons of the prophets and of the (B)covenant which God made with your fathers, saying to Abraham, '(C)AND IN YOUR SEED ALL THE FAMILIES OF THE EARTH SHALL BE BLESSED.'

Notice the context: Jesus is speaking to a Jewish ruler/teacher who thought that God was only concerned about Israel. The Scripture teaches otherwise, that the God was concerned for the world, all kinds of people.

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